GUEST BLOG: Revisiting the Vault by Lynne Viehl
Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:00
When I had a chance to pitch to my publisher some new books set in the Darkyn universe, I didn’t just jump at the opportunity; I flung myself at it, knocked it down and sat on it until I had a contract. I was pretty sure this would make my readers, who have been asking for more Darkyn ever since my publisher ended the original series, very happy. I was also delighted, as I’d never had the time to write all the stories I’d wanted.
Once I’d signed the contract, I took out all my old Darkyn files. While I’d never stopped thinking about the Darkyn, it had been a few years since I’d featured them as main characters. I wanted to look over things and chat with my immortals so I could explain the new venture. Of course, I expected them to be as excited as I was.
All authors who talk to their characters are not crazy. At least, I’m pretty sure we’re not. My conversations are strictly mental meetings that take place at an imagination conference table in my mind’s novel library. The shelves are packed with my books, a box of zero-calorie jelly donuts is parked in front of my chair, and my favorite classical music plays in the background. But when I go in to give them the good news, the library is empty and the invisible stereo is playing Take This Job and Shove It. Worse, there aren’t any jelly donuts.
I walk down past the archive rooms of Unfinished Stories, Finished/Unsold Stories and Finished/Unsold/To be Burned stories to the character vault area. I don’t like opening the vault because I know who’s in there, and they don’t appreciate me keeping them locked up. Only I find the vault door standing open and black and red confetti all over the carpet. I can also hear Gloria Estefan singing The Conga from inside.
An immortal Darkyn warrior stops me just inside the threshold. He’s big, handsome, muscular, and has a two-handed sword in one hand. “Have you an invitation, my lady?”
“You’re kidding, right?” I can see he isn’t. “Who do you think your writer is, you blockhead?”
“I cannot say. We’ve had no writer since the black-hearted, evil, conniving, merciless Satan of a wench ended our lord Locksley’s tale by changing him into . . .” his voice trails off as he bends down to peer at me. “God in Heaven.” He shuffles back a step. “You are the very image of her.”
“That would be because I am Satan.” I pat his pale cheek. “Where are Alex and Michael?”
He points a trembling finger toward the interior of the vault. “They may be found within, oh powerful, all-knowing beauteous one—“
“Too late to suck up now, Red Shirt.” I go in to enter what looks like a rocked-out medieval banquet room/tavern. Banners from all the Darkyn jardins flutter overhead as racks of upside-down wine glasses do the conga over the bar. The place is wall-to-wall immortals, but instead of dancing they’re watching a mini-melee between a bunch of scowling Italians I recognize from the last book.
“A genuine mortal. How enchanting.” An iron hand in a black velvet glove settles on my shoulder. “Has someone ordered delivery?”
I glance up at Lucan, once the most lethal assassin among the Kyn. “You turned my vault into a vampire nightclub?”
“I was bored.” He rubs his forehead. “What is it now? Another free story? Haven’t I appeared in enough of them?”
“I created you,” I remind him. “I also got you on the New York Times bestseller list and on shelves in seventy countries. I found a woman who not only loves you but puts up with everything that makes you an eternal pain in the ass. You can spare me five minutes.”
He sighs, lifts two fingers to his mouth and produces a piercing whistle. Gloria Estefan falls silent, the mini-melee comes to a halt and dozens of gorgeous faces go white as they see me.
“Oh, no. No. We just got back here,” Alexandra Keller gripes from her bar stool. “We did your cameos. We were nice to the genetically-enhanced humans. Go write something else.”
“Your gratitude is overwhelming,” I tell her. “I’m here because I sold three more books.”
“Congratulations.” Michael Cyprien comes over and kisses the back of my hand. “As always, we hope you enjoy much success. You must return to your world now, oui?”
“Three more Darkyn books.”
Wine glasses start cracking as groans sweep around the room. Alex props her forehead against her fist. Some of the Italians begin to pray. From the back someone mutters “Can’t we just kill her?” and someone else says, “We’re fictitious, you dolt.”
I have to raise my voice to be heard. “It’s a quest for treasure trilogy.” No one says anything. “No one’s DNA will be stolen.” A faint cheer from the left makes me smile. “And you get more women.”
A suspicious-looking warrior emerges from the crowd. “How many more, Evil One, and what are they?”
“They’re allies and good guys. Mostly. By the end of the trilogy, you’ll have . . .“ I do the math. “Sixty new immortals.”
“Not even you could manage so many females in but three novels.” The warrior gives me an uncertain look. “Could you?”
I show him some teeth. “Fifty-eight of them show up in one book.”
“Well, I have some time on my hands,” Lucan murmurs, and winces as I smack him in the back of the head. “I cannot help myself. You made me this way.”
“You’re taken, pal.” I turn to Alex, who has walked over from the bar. “I ended your story arc. You’ll be guest appearing only. I promise.”
She holds up a hand. “No Brethren, no torture, no burning down strongholds, and absolutely no more emergency marathon rebuild-a-face surgeries.”
“Deal.” I finally notice that the vault isn’t as crowded as I left it when I retired my last series. “So what did you guys do with all the other characters I had stowed in here?”
Suddenly everyone is looking at anything but me, and Alex sighs. “Remember back when you put us in here, and I asked you to install a blood bank? Well, you kind of forgot, and . . . “
[Ed. Lynn has put together a terrific prize basket for one of our lucky commeters today. Here's a list of what's included, along with a pic:
The French-inspired tote, made by Olivia by Design on Etsy, includes:
A signed set of my seven novels in the original Darkyn Series
A signed ARC of Nightborn, the first book in my Lords of the Darkyn trilogy
A set of twelve Herman Wu bookmarks
An amethyst crystal bookmark "pen"
A font mug from Author Outfitters
A handmade brooch from Olivia by Design to match the tote
So be sure to ask a question or leave a meaningful comment for Lynn today, because you really don't want to miss out on any of this!]
Anne VanLoon says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:18 am
How in the world are you going to add 58 new women in one book? Is this because of the vaccination work that Alex did and it can now be used the other way to make more?
Emily H says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:24 am
This post made me LOL. I can’t wait for Nightborn!! And for all (I will settle for some) of the dangly bits tied up from the Darkyn/Kyndred books. I don’t think I have any questions, I want to be surprised.
Mal says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:27 am
I have to say, it’s always interesting to hear about the things that go on in a writer’s mind through the writing/editing phase, as well as other moments like this one. It’s fun to see the interaction of characters and the snappy dialog makes me laugh. Congratulations on the contract Lynne! How frequently will Darkyn books be appearing?
Maria D. says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:30 am
Congratulations to Lynn on the new contract! I haven’t read the Darkyn series so this would be a great way to get to know the series and the characters. I loved the fictional dialogue between the characters and Lynn – very amusing.
My question for Lynn is : will this new Lords of the Darkyn trilogy, pick up in the same timeline that Stay the Night ended in or will you be jumping years ahead with the new books?
It looks like the print, ebook and audio version of Nightborn will all be released on the same day, how much input did you get into the simultaneous releases?
Thanks for the giveaway
maria63303 at gmail dot com
Anne says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:40 am
I was captivated with your witty and fascinating prose. What an idea which is wonderful. These characters certainly are unique and special. Darklyn would transport me which I could use right now. Best wishes.
Leslee says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:47 am
I am soooo happy the Darkyn are back. Don’t misunderstand, I loved the new series but the Darkyn are my first love.
I don’t know if you have answered this question elsewhere but… How do you face the fear, the uncertainty of whether or not you can do something? How do you beat back that feeling that what you imagine in your head won’t be captured on the page?
MarnieColette says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:53 am
58 women in book one. Can I be one of them? I love it when authors chat with their characters. Congratulations on 3 more books.
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:11 am
Hi everyone — thanks for stopping in today and helping me kickoff the countdown to Nightborn’s release. I’m going to be doing the same, and will try to answer all your questions about the new Darkyn novel trilogy.
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:16 am
Anne wrote: “How in the world are you going to add 58 new women in one book? Is this because of the vaccination work that Alex did and it can now be used the other way to make more?”
The addition of the 58 new female Darkyn characters does not involve any of Alex’s experimental compounds, although now that I think about it that might have been an easier solution. I don’t want to give out too many spoilers, but I can tell you that these characters are discovered, not transformed.
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:19 am
Emily wrote: “And for all (I will settle for some) of the dangly bits tied up from the Darkyn/Kyndred books. I don’t think I have any questions, I want to be surprised.”
Thanks, Emily. I am hoping to revisit some of those storylines as well, both in the new books as well as some free e-books I have planned.
CrystalGB says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:23 am
Hi Lynn. I am so thrilled there are going to be more Darkyn books. I love your series.
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:24 am
Mal wrote: “I have to say, it’s always interesting to hear about the things that go on in a writer’s mind through the writing/editing phase, as well as other moments like this one.”
We’re really not as crazy as we sound. Most of the time. Ha.
“How frequently will Darkyn books be appearing?”
At the moment I’m on a 6 to 8 month publication schedule. Nightbred, book two, is currently scheduled for release in December 2012 (this date is, like everything, subject to publisher scheduling changes.) I don’t yet have a release date for Nightbound, book three, but I will be turning it in to my editor in June this year, and hope to get it to the readers in late spring/early summer 2013.
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:30 am
Maria wrote: “will this new Lords of the Darkyn trilogy, pick up in the same timeline that Stay the Night ended in or will you be jumping years ahead with the new books?”
There is a small time jump to allow for the years that have passed while I’ve been writing the Kyndred series and to keep the world of the Darkyn in sync with our real-world calendar, but I don’t think readers will have a problem picking up the story lines again, as the Kyndred books were more about the Kyndred, especially the last two.
“It looks like the print, ebook and audio version of Nightborn will all be released on the same day, how much input did you get into the simultaneous releases?”
None. The publisher makes the decisions on when to release different formats and I’m not part of that process. I am very excited to have an audio release for this novel. It’s my first audio book, and the narrator, Johanna Parker, has done some amazing work with Charlaine Harris’s and Stephanie Tyler’s novels, so I’m totally thrilled to have her reading Nightborn.
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 am
Anne wrote: “I was captivated with your witty and fascinating prose. What an idea which is wonderful. These characters certainly are unique and special. Darklyn would transport me which I could use right now.”
Thanks, Anne. I always have fun with my characters, even when they’re giving me a hard time.
Marcie R says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:50 am
For someone who has not read these stories – what is the Darklyn universe?
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:51 am
Leslee wrote: “I don’t know if you have answered this question elsewhere but… How do you face the fear, the uncertainty of whether or not you can do something? How do you beat back that feeling that what you imagine in your head won’t be captured on the page?”
I don’t think anyone has asked me that before, but I’m getting old and absent-minded, so if I am repeating myself I hope everyone will forgive me.
I’ve never been afraid of writing, and I think it’s because I am self-taught and spent all of my formative years as a writer in solitude, writing mainly for my own pleasure. I never met another writer until after I sold my first two books, so I was never exposed to that kind of fear or any of the other difficulties associated with storytelling. I’ve been afraid of publishing and the industry, as it’s very competitive and often ruthless, and the people are nothing like I expected them to be, but I learned over time how to deal with that by keeping it out of my head and my writing space.
I don’t think I’ll ever successfully write exactly what I see in my head, but I’m determined to remain open, keep learning, and in the process discover new ways to improve my storytelling so that I can capture as much of the vision as is possible. Maintaining that mindset prevents me from becoming complacent, I think, and helps me to remain fully invested in the work versus writing cookie-cutter novels or phoning it in. So if that represents a form of self-doubt, I definitely have it, but I think it’s good for me,
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:54 am
Marnie wrote: “58 women in book one. Can I be one of them?”
You’ve got a beautiful name, want to lend it to me for a character? Lol. Thanks, Marnie.
Mireya says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:55 am
“meaningful”… is that a trick of some sort? The only “meaningful” thing I can come up with is blaming Lynn Viehl for getting me hooked into the whole “world creation” addiction and actually forcing me to learn what the definition of that is, as well as providing me with a superb example of how it should be properly done… not that I intend to write, mind you… am too lazy for that.
Joking aside, thank you, Ms. Viehl, for sending a “pitch” for more Darkyn novels to your publisher. I was very sad thinking we wouldn’t get any more of them. I have been counting the days since you announced you were bringing more stories taking place in their world.
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
Crystal wrote: “Hi Lynn. I am so thrilled there are going to be more Darkyn books. I love your series.”
Thanks, Crystal, I hope you enjoy the new trilogy (and you got me hooked on reading Lisa Kleypas again, so I’m really just returning the favor.)
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Marcie wrote: “For someone who has not read these stories – what is the Darklyn universe?”
Marcie, the Darkyn were once human during the Dark Ages. Most were Knights Templar who became infected with a plague-like viral pathogen that killed them, mutated them, and then resurrected them from the grave as blood-dependent/vampiric immortals. Humans in that time referred to these resurrected beings as their ‘dark kyn” which they took as their name. A group of mortal religious zealots known as the Brethren began hunting, torturing and killing the Kyn, so they recruited sympathetic humans to help them conceal and protect them from their enemies. For the last seven hundred years the Kyn have been learning to co-exist with mortals, control their blood lust and live in peace in their hidden communities, but of course that doesn’t always happen. If you’d like to test-drive my Darkyn, I have plenty of free stories and novellas about them over at my weblog; go to the Freebies and Free Reads page on the sidebar and you’ll find links to them there (I recommend starting with Worthy, Willing and Wanted, which are three short stories that may be a good intro to the Darkyn universe.)
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Mireya wrote: ““meaningful”… is that a trick of some sort? The only “meaningful” thing I can come up with is blaming Lynn Viehl for getting me hooked into the whole “world creation” addiction and actually forcing me to learn what the definition of that is, as well as providing me with a superb example of how it should be properly done… not that I intend to write, mind you… am too lazy for that.”
(Making note to self to leave Mireya a nice chunk of the estate.)
“Joking aside, thank you, Ms. Viehl, for sending a “pitch” for more Darkyn novels to your publisher. I was very sad thinking we wouldn’t get any more of them. I have been counting the days since you announced you were bringing more stories taking place in their world.”
I’m just as happy to be returning to this universe as my readers, Mireya. Thanks for the very generous praise; now I’ll have to work hard to live up to it.
Lynne Connolly says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
I’ve had my prize in the ARC. Loved it.
Love this column, too, what a great way to show the characters and how nice that Alexandra is there!
Amber Carroll says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Question: Was Duncan Reever in that vault? :O
I can’t wait for my copy to ship! My first book was Private Demon. I ended up buying If Angels Burn shortly after that. I’ve also purchased three copies of that one, as I loaned it out (no return) and lost second copy in a move. I hate moving, especially when my pets don’t arrive. Grr, being a bibliophile can be a pain.
I brought and read StarDoc between Dream Veil and Frostfire. That’s when I fell in love with Duncan, and you, “merciless Satan of a wench” left him with them? T_T
Thank you for writing more books. I love your humor. ^_^
Ilona F says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:27 pm
I want the key to your vault!
Meanwehile I’ll just reread that wonderful post and dream of joining all those gorgeous Darkyn men
Lori Y says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
58 women!!! Howe will you keep them all straight without getting mixed up? I agree with Marnie, can I be one of them however use my real name which is Lorraine and not mu nickname which is Lori.
Na S. says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
I think it’s wonderful you talk to your characters. It’s not crazy, and even if it is it’s crazy GOOD. As a reader I love being able to connect with characters and for me to do so I have to understand where they are coming from and going. Therefore keep chatting away and I’m more than happy to be privy to all you take from them and input to your stories. I have to yet to discover your Darkyn universe and want to now.
Marcie R says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Thanks Lynn – I’ll check out your site!
GayLee says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Heh. Lucan gets a dope slap. Priceless.
I’m going to join the conga line of well wishers and fangirls and say that I’m thrilled your new Darkyn trilogy was a go. Given your work ethic I expect at least your end of things will be delivered on time.
You did a fine job of sowing up the stories for several of your minor characters in your freebie short stories/novellas, like Will and Jamis (sp? sorry). I’m curious if these three novels will do the same for other characters from the original series. Obviously, Korvel gets his (so to speak) in Nightborn. I’ve been kinda hoping Richard would get redemption as well.
Clairecherven says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
It’s about time Lynn got back to this wonderfully crafted series and it’s equally interesting characters. Although you can enter the series at any book, the adventure builds if they are read in order. Join the party and be enthralled!!!!
SandyL says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Congratulations. I look forward to reading more books in the Darkyn universe.
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Lynne wrote: “I’ve had my prize in the ARC. Loved it.”
I appreciate you taking the time to review the novel, Lynne.
“Love this column, too, what a great way to show the characters and how nice that Alexandra is there!”
Of all the Darkyn regulars Alex always seems to be lurking somewhere in my head. Tonight while I was cooking dinner she was lecturing me on how badly I need to practice cutting up a whole chicken.
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Amber wrote: “Question: Was Duncan Reever in that vault? :O”
I can’t swear to it, but he’s probably hiding out in the ceiling with Cherijo, Marel and Squilyp.
“I can’t wait for my copy to ship! My first book was Private Demon. I ended up buying If Angels Burn shortly after that. I’ve also purchased three copies of that one, as I loaned it out (no return) and lost second copy in a move. I hate moving, especially when my pets don’t arrive. Grr, being a bibliophile can be a pain.”
I had problems with family and friends borrowing and not returning books, so now I keep a shelf of lender copies of my favorite novels. My rule is if it’s not on the shelf, they can’t borrow it.
“I brought and read StarDoc between Dream Veil and Frostfire. That’s when I fell in love with Duncan, and you, “merciless Satan of a wench” left him with them? T_T”
After all he’s been through Duncan can hold his own, I think. Even the Hsktskt couldn’t kill him.
“Thank you for writing more books. I love your humor. ^_^”
I appreciate the support, especially with you spreading the word to friends. Honestly, that’s the best advertising in the world.
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Ilona wrote: “I want the key to your vault! Meanwehile I’ll just reread that wonderful post and dream of joining all those gorgeous Darkyn men”
Lol. They are a very attractive bunch, my Kyn.
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Lori wrote: “58 women!!! Howe will you keep them all straight without getting mixed up?”
Very carefully. Part of the trick of working with a massive amount of characters is just to keep the really interesting ones on stage and have the rest serve as the background chorus (this I learned while writing StarDoc, which has literally hundreds of characters.)
“I agree with Marnie, can I be one of them however use my real name which is Lorraine and not mu nickname which is Lori.”
Lorraine is really a lovely and timeless name. In French it’s spelled Louréne, and it’s also the name of one of the most gorgeous regions in France that is all verdant valleys and little farming villages.
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Na S. wrote: “I think it’s wonderful you talk to your characters. It’s not crazy, and even if it is it’s crazy GOOD.”
Thanks, Na. I tell myself as long as I don’t start shopping for them I’m okay.
“As a reader I love being able to connect with characters and for me to do so I have to understand where they are coming from and going. Therefore keep chatting away and I’m more than happy to be privy to all you take from them and input to your stories. I have to yet to discover your Darkyn universe and want to now.”
Having a strong connection with characters makes writing their stories easier, I think. Definitely more fun, too. If you want to try some of my free Darkyn stories to get a feel for the universe, do stop by the blog and check out the links. I have them all posted on Google Docs and they’re accessible for reading online, downloading and/or printing out.
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Marcie wrote: “Thanks Lynn – I’ll check out your site!”
No problem. I put the stories online both as gifts for my readers and for people who haven’t read my work so they can sample all the different series I write.
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
GayLee wrote: “Heh. Lucan gets a dope slap. Priceless.”
He needs one occasionally, lol.
“I’m going to join the conga line of well wishers and fangirls and say that I’m thrilled your new Darkyn trilogy was a go. Given your work ethic I expect at least your end of things will be delivered on time.”
I just turned in revisions for Nightbred (book two) to my editor, and if I’ve made her happy we’ll move into production. Next week I’m sending her the long synopsis for Nightbound (book three.)
“You did a fine job of sowing up the stories for several of your minor characters in your freebie short stories/novellas, like Will and Jamis (sp? sorry). I’m curious if these three novels will do the same for other characters from the original series. Obviously, Korvel gets his (so to speak) in Nightborn.”
I also took the opportunity in Nightborn to update and continue Nick and Gabriel’s story, so readers who wanted to know more of what’s been happening with them will have some answers. Jamys (Thierry Durand’s son) is the male protagonist of Nightbred, book two. I don’t want to give away too much about book three until I have approval from my editor on the storyline, but I can tell you it will take readers back to Knight’s Realm, the setting for Evermore, and features Jayr and Byrne as secondary characters.
“I’ve been kinda hoping Richard would get redemption as well.”
I was working on Chrysalis, Richard’s story, last year and almost have it finished. Because Richard is who Richard is I can’t sell the book to New York, so I’ve always planned to give it away online as a free e-book.
Truthfully it’s been a bit of a tough go with this particular story, as Richard is not exactly great heroic material to begin with, and I’ve also been fighting with myself over several aspects of the plot. I don’t want to gloss over Richard’s flaws, many of which are pretty bad, but I don’t want to cheat the readers of the real story, and that kind of writing becomes a very delicate balancing act. Then last summer I had to put the project aside when my dad fell ill, and after we lost him like anyone I needed some time to accept losing a much-loved parent. But I feel like I’m near ready to get back to work on it and bring it to the readers.
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Claire wrote: “It’s about time Lynn got back to this wonderfully crafted series and it’s equally interesting characters. Although you can enter the series at any book, the adventure builds if they are read in order. Join the party and be enthralled!!!!”
Thanks for the generous praise, Claire. I will endeavor to keep earning it.
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:47 pm
SandyL wrote: “Congratulations. I look forward to reading more books in the Darkyn universe.”
Thanks, Sandy. I am delighted to be returning to the Kyn, and promise if nothing else you will not be bored.
nightsmusic says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:04 pm
I loved this post. I had a smile on my face the entire read. Not just because of how much I love the slightly sarcastic bent to your humor, but this made me laugh out loud:
From the back someone mutters “Can’t we just kill her?” and someone else says, “We’re fictitious, you dolt.”
Do you know how hard that was to explain to the DH?
I can’t WAIT for this story!
GayLee says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Thanks for the detailed info, Lynn. Richard is such a pivotal character in your series. Despite his scariness and flaws, you’ve allowed him to show some bits of humanity, which has made me wonder about him. If there was ever a character in need of redemption, it’s Richard. I look forward to reading Chrysalis. Why wouldn’t NY buy his story? Not enough HEA romance?
Laura Marcella says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:54 pm
LoL, I think I like this version of your mind’s novel library better than what you originally thought it would be! Though I guess the calorie-free jelly donuts would’ve been a great bonus.
Your characters and voice are compelling, Lynn. Wishing you lots of luck and good times as you write more Darkyn novels!
wade2121 says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:46 pm
“They may be found within, oh powerful, all-knowing beauteous one—“ LOL
So glad there are more stories to tell.
Lisa Mann says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:48 pm
I’ve heard it said that a good author makes their characters hate them ( the author) which provides a great story. Do you agree?
donnas says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Thanks for sharing today! Congrats on the new release! I have only read a couple of your books so far but I am really looking forward to reading more.
Kendra Codrington says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm
I laughed and laughed some more when I read this post and it has increased my excitement for the new Darkyn books you will be releasing. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU SOO MUCH! This post just solidifies you’re spot as my favourite author.
Lynn says:
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Nightsmusic wrote: “From the back someone mutters “Can’t we just kill her?” and someone else says, “We’re fictitious, you dolt.” Do you know how hard that was to explain to the DH?”
About as hard as it was for me to explain to my guy why I was laughing so hard while I was writing the post, ha.
“I can’t WAIT for this story!”
Thanks, Theo. I hope it does not disappoint.
Lynn says:
February 24th, 2012 at 12:14 am
GayLee wrote: “Thanks for the detailed info, Lynn. Richard is such a pivotal character in your series. Despite his scariness and flaws, you’ve allowed him to show some bits of humanity, which has made me wonder about him.”
Underneath all that high lordness (and fur) is definitely an interesting man. I’ve learned a lot about characterization — and layers thereof — simply by getting him on the page and figuring out why he does what he does.
“If there was ever a character in need of redemption, it’s Richard. I look forward to reading Chrysalis. Why wouldn’t NY buy his story? Not enough HEA romance?”
I talked about the possibility with my former editor, but she didn’t see Richard as hero material (she also felt the same way about John Keller.) From her POV Richard was a very dark, often evil guy who had way too much non-PC backstory; he also has the additional handicap of not being entirely humanoid, which the editor felt readers would think was too sci-fi and repulsive for a hero. I didn’t agree, but I have to make a living, so I moved on and pitched other characters who were more acceptable by her standards.
The great thing about writing and giving away stories online is that I can still write Richard’s story for myself and my readers. It would be nice to be paid for everything I write, but some things are more important to me than making a buck off every story I tell.
Lynn says:
February 24th, 2012 at 12:17 am
Laura wrote: “LoL, I think I like this version of your mind’s novel library better than what you originally thought it would be! Though I guess the calorie-free jelly donuts would’ve been a great bonus.”
I keep writing to the CEO of Dunkin Donuts to create them in reality; someday I think he will. They better be strawberry.
“Your characters and voice are compelling, Lynn. Wishing you lots of luck and good times as you write more Darkyn novels!”
Thanks, Laura. I am having a blast with this trilogy.
Lynn says:
February 24th, 2012 at 12:19 am
Wade wrote: ““They may be found within, oh powerful, all-knowing beauteous one—“ LOL So glad there are more stories to tell.”
Thanks, Wade. I don’t think I’ll run out of Darkyn stories any time soon, that’s for sure.
Lynn says:
February 24th, 2012 at 1:02 am
Lisa wrote: “I’ve heard it said that a good author makes their characters hate them ( the author) which provides a great story. Do you agree?”
That’s a really good question. If my characters were living people, I’m sure they’d be extremely exasperated with me for all the turmoil and trouble I throw at them. But as imaginary constructs, to me they’re a bit like actors. I’m the screenwriter and I decide what they do on stage, but off stage we’re all working together on the production in my head to get it as exciting and authentic as we can. Most of the time they cooperate.
I have a huge amount of affection for most of my characters, and even for the few who I honestly don’t like a certain grudging respect. But there have been a handful that have been nothing but trouble. A couple of the commentors have mentioned Duncan Reever, one of the protagonists from my StarDoc series, and over the course of writing those ten books I wanted him dead in about nine and a half of them. Sometimes I hated Reever so much that I’d kill him on the page just for fun (and then rewrite him back to life.) But Duncan was an important character for me to write in my development as a storyteller, and he taught me a lot, even when he flatly refused to do what I wanted him to do in the story (and one time he completely wrecked a very cool ending for one of my novels, for which I still haven’t forgiven him.) Did Reever hate me just as much? Probably.
Korvel was another challenging character to write, particularly when moving him from the secondary ranks into the role of a protagonist. Korvel appeared in three different novels in the original Darkyn series, but throughout his appearances his focus was very narrow: his duty to Richard, his feelings for Alexandra, and his desire to be loved. I really hammered him with all three aspects of how he served the storyline, and in the process damaged him quite a bit. That’s why bringing him back on stage, this time to tell his story, was a struggle in the beginning. His character was not in a good place to step into the shoes of a main character. When writing story, it also has to be logical to me in order for it to be logical to the character, so I was really wrestling with myself. But I had faith in Korvel, too, and I knew I wasn’t wrong about his potential as a protagonist. I just kept at him until he came back to full, vivid life on the page. He made the jump and took up this new direction kind of with a vengeance, and by the time I dropped him into his new conflict he was ready to fight, too. Does Korvel hate me? I don’t know. Maybe I’m not his favorite person. But I do hope with this book he’s forgiven me.
All of this may be way more than you wanted to know, but I think it’s important to consider the complexity of the many relationships a writer has with their characters.
Lynn says:
February 24th, 2012 at 1:04 am
Donnas wrote: “Thanks for sharing today! Congrats on the new release! I have only read a couple of your books so far but I am really looking forward to reading more.”
Thanks, Donnas, I appreciate the investment, and hope you’ll find more to like among my novels.
Lynn says:
February 24th, 2012 at 1:05 am
Kendra wrote: “I laughed and laughed some more when I read this post and it has increased my excitement for the new Darkyn books you will be releasing. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU SOO MUCH! This post just solidifies you’re spot as my favourite author.”
You are too kind, Kendra, thank you. I hope you enjoy Nightborn.
Lynn says:
February 24th, 2012 at 1:07 am
I would like to thank Sandy, Lynne and all the ladies of GB&U for hosting me here today and featuring Nightborn. I’ve had a marvelous time talking with you and all your amazing visitors, and I appreciate the generous words for my work. Good luck to everyone, and happy reading!
Dawn Montgomery says:
February 24th, 2012 at 6:29 am
I am so excited! Can’t wait for the new Darkyn book!!! So many great questions (a few of which were my questions…awesome to know I wasn’t the only one thinking them!)
Diane says:
February 24th, 2012 at 8:45 am
That was absolutely hilarious! Oh, thank you so much for sharing that. I don’t feel so weird about the fact that I talk to my characters too.
Katy L says:
February 24th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Loved the post, including the gratuitous Star Trek reference (for non-Trekkies, wearing a red shirt on off the Enterprise = kiss of death). I’ve bought all the Darkyn and Kyndred books as they appeared, and loved every one of them for the excellent stories and characters, and also snarky humor. While I’m glad you’re done torturing Alex and Michael (a friend once told me that the best authors commit massive character torture), I’m glad the the Kyn are continuing. I’m looking forward to the new chapter.
mary allen says:
February 24th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
I enjoyed the post read Paperback writer and I have read some of the Darkyn and would love to win the seven books as have been unable to find the first book. I have noted on my calandar the publish date for Nightborn so will be getting it soon after March 6th. I still wish you would write anothe sci/fi as I loved Star Doc. Are the Kyndred books over?
Lynn says:
February 24th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Dawn wrote: “I am so excited! Can’t wait for the new Darkyn book!!! So many great questions (a few of which were my questions…awesome to know I wasn’t the only one thinking them!)”
Thanks, Dawn. I thought the questions were terrific, too, and lots of fun to answer.
Lynn says:
February 24th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Diane wrote: “That was absolutely hilarious! Oh, thank you so much for sharing that. I don’t feel so weird about the fact that I talk to my characters too. ”
I’m glad you enjoyed it, Diane, and you shouldn’t feel odd about talking to your characters. Except in line at the grocery store — then the checkout girl gets a little worried.
Lynn says:
February 24th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Katy wrote: “Loved the post, including the gratuitous Star Trek reference (for non-Trekkies, wearing a red shirt on off the Enterprise = kiss of death).”
I should have mentioned that in an early comment, lol. I love Star Trek and all its incarnations.
“I’ve bought all the Darkyn and Kyndred books as they appeared, and loved every one of them for the excellent stories and characters, and also snarky humor. While I’m glad you’re done torturing Alex and Michael (a friend once told me that the best authors commit massive character torture), I’m glad the the Kyn are continuing. I’m looking forward to the new chapter.”
I’m sure Alex and Michael want to permanently retire after struggling through their relationship over seven novels, but I felt the wrap-up for them in book seven was worth it. I also loved being able to write their continued storyline because we don’t often get a chance to see what happens to couples after the end of their stint as main characters. I do hope you enjoy the new trilogy.
Lynn says:
February 24th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Mary Allen wrote: “I enjoyed the post read Paperback writer and I have read some of the Darkyn and would love to win the seven books as have been unable to find the first book.”
Tell you what, Mary, if you don’t win the giveaway send me an e-mail (LynnViehl@aol.com) and I’ll send you the first book.
“I have noted on my calandar the publish date for Nightborn so will be getting it soon after March 6th. I still wish you would write anothe sci/fi as I loved Star Doc. Are the Kyndred books over?”
My publisher decided to end the Kyndred series as the books never sold as well the Darkyn novels. If sales for the backlisted Kyndred books now take off they may want more in the future (and this is a real possibility, as it’s happened twice before in the past with my StarDoc and Darkyn series.)
After I finished the StarDoc series I felt I needed to take a break from science fiction. I have a novel I’m shopping around now that is steampunk/alternative history, not quite the same thing, but a story I think would have much appeal to my StarDoc readers.
Raine says:
February 24th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
I’m not here for the prize, just enjoying visiting the vault, lol.
Can I get an invitation to the next party?
Atropa says:
February 24th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
I’m banging my head against the wall because I haven’t gotten to ANY of these books! *gasp from everyone here*
I’ve read a few books from the Kyndred series, but have yet to delve into the Darkyn. I’ve been super busy and stressed out lately, and I’m in desperate need of some new reads, so I think this series is my next stop.
If I win the contest that would sure make it easy – if not, I’m going to harass my library until they buy the whole series! (Even though by the time they get around to it I’ll probably have bought all the books myself. *sigh*)
Chinyere says:
February 24th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
hi Lynn! I am so excited about Nightborn and wouldn’t mind winning it.
Please don’t retire Alex because she is has such a sarcastic wit that makes a reader laugh out loud. She is such a contrast for a controlled Michael.
I have a question for you: Will Michael fight Korvel for his attraction to Alex? Even though Richard made him do it, Korvel still developed feelings for her. Shouldn’t Richard pay some sort of price for requiring some mental attack of Michael’s lover? In addition will his seneschal Phillpe have his own book? I know that the love interest might be something that make readers uncomfortable but I really liked him. He was like Alex’s other brother.
Also: Will Richard have a HEA? He was such a controlling SOB that a true love would make him a better man and less ruthless ruler. I can’t wait to go back into the Darkyn world.
I still have my Darkyn chart with all the leaders, their Sygkensis & seneschal, their jardin area, and talents. I don’t anticipate being lost when with Korvel.
thanks, (ezinwanyi1@yahoo.com)
Please send me the new book, my kindle is waiting for this one!
Scooper says:
February 24th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Are all the Darkyn books going to be set in the present? Have you ever considered writing one like a historical? I’m not saying I’d like that, I’m just curious. On a side note, I’m working my way through all the original Darkyn books which I devoured as they were released. Do you ever make it to signings and what do fans usually ask you the most?
Pamk says:
February 25th, 2012 at 1:02 am
I am so stoked that we get more Darkyn bo oks and i loved some this post. Loved seeing snippets about some of my favorite characters.
scrtsbpal at yahoo dot com
Lynn says:
February 25th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Raine wrote: “I’m not here for the prize, just enjoying visiting the vault, lol.
Can I get an invitation to the next party?”
Absolutely.
Lynn says:
February 25th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Atropa wrote: “I’m banging my head against the wall because I haven’t gotten to ANY of these books! *gasp from everyone here*”
It’s literally impossible to read everything on the market, so don’t beat yourself up. One great thing about my publisher is that they’ve kept all the original Darkyn books in print, so even after seven years they’re still available.
“I’ve read a few books from the Kyndred series, but have yet to delve into the Darkyn. I’ve been super busy and stressed out lately, and I’m in desperate need of some new reads, so I think this series is my next stop.”
If you want to test-drive the universe first do try some of the free stories (links on my weblog’s Freebies and Free Reads page.)
“If I win the contest that would sure make it easy – if not, I’m going to harass my library until they buy the whole series! (Even though by the time they get around to it I’ll probably have bought all the books myself. *sigh*)”
I can’t tell you how great it is for an author when libraries stock their books, especially writers like me who have most of their work in paperback. I always appreciate readers who request my titles at their libraries because it gives me a chance to reach all the other readers who visit there.
Lynn says:
February 25th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Chinyere wrote: “hi Lynn! I am so excited about Nightborn and wouldn’t mind winning it. Please don’t retire Alex because she is has such a sarcastic wit that makes a reader laugh out loud. She is such a contrast for a controlled Michael.”
Hi, Chinyere. Alex will be appearing again, I promise, as will Michael.
“I have a question for you: Will Michael fight Korvel for his attraction to Alex? Even though Richard made him do it, Korvel still developed feelings for her. Shouldn’t Richard pay some sort of price for requiring some mental attack of Michael’s lover?”
It’s going to be tricky answering this without getting into spoilers for Nightborn, so forgive me in advance for being a bit vague. I always felt that the situation between Korvel and Alex in the original series was not completely resolved, and although Alex made a clear choice, I did leave Korvel in limbo. I also felt it was something Alex and Korvel had to settle once and for all between themselves versus pulling Michael and Richard back into it. I addressed this directly in Nightborn and while I can’t tell you precisely how, I think you’ll be satisfied with what’s in the story.
“In addition will his seneschal Phillpe have his own book? I know that the love interest might be something that make readers uncomfortable but I really liked him. He was like Alex’s other brother.”
Phillipe is one of my most favorite Darkyn characters, and I’ve often thought about writing him as a protagonist. He’s an interesting guy, and not at all as simple as he sometimes seems. I seriously doubt I could sell his story as anything but a subplot, however, and I suspect even then there would be a lot of resistance to it (and I know this because I had to deal with quite a bit of resistance to his storyline in Stay the Night.) So right now I have Phillipe on hold. If the new trilogy is successful, I may be able to do more with him in the future. Or I may choose to write a free e-book about him so I can do exactly what I want. It really depends on what the majority of my readership wants, which is my chief navigator when it comes to heading in any direction with the work.
“Also: Will Richard have a HEA? He was such a controlling SOB that a true love would make him a better man and less ruthless ruler.”
I have written Chrysalis, a novella featuring Richard as a protagonist, that (once I edited and polish it) I will be giving as a free e-book to my readers. I don’t really write traditional HEAs the way most writers do because for one thing I don’t believe in them; real relationships aren’t like that at all. I have tried writing HEAs and no matter what I do, they always feel fake to me. But if you’ve read my work you know I like to step beyond the HEA and explore what happens after two protagonists fall in love and make a committment to each other. Richard definitely has to deal with some significant issues in his story, but he also has a chance to evolve beyond the character he’s been, which to me is much more satisfying than a phony ride off into the sunset. I think once I do get Chrysalis out there you’ll be pleased with what I’ve done.
Lynn says:
February 25th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Scooper wrote: “Are all the Darkyn books going to be set in the present?”
Yes, all three novels in the trilogy take place in the modern-day world (there are a couple of flashbacks to medieval times, but not many.)
“Have you ever considered writing one like a historical? I’m not saying I’d like that, I’m just curious.”
I have thought about it a few times, and I’m keeping the option open (I’ve often thought a novel set during the time of the Darkyn jardin wars would be pretty neat.) Right now my publisher prefers I keep the stories in the present but they may be open to a historical Darkyn novel in the future.
“On a side note, I’m working my way through all the original Darkyn books which I devoured as they were released. Do you ever make it to signings and what do fans usually ask you the most?”
I stopped making public appearances back in 2003 due to health issues; I have severe arthritis in both hands. I’m also on RA medications that make me very prone to infection, so I have to avoid large crowds of people as well.
My readers ask me most for more stories; they love the free e-books I give away. I’ve also auctioned off a few of my quilts for various publishing charities, and readers have been really wonderful about bidding on them.
Lynn says:
February 25th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Pamk wrote: “I am so stoked that we get more Darkyn bo oks and i loved some this post. Loved seeing snippets about some of my favorite characters.”
Thanks, Pam, I appreciate you stopping in. This has been a blast for me.
Chinyere says:
February 25th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Dear Lynn,
Thank you for giving us this forum for asking questions. will we see a short story with Jayr and her father? That book cover is one of my favorite book covers. The color, her face etc made it so memorable.
I would buy Phillipe’s story as a short story, but you are right about the unfavorable reaction…but that hasn’t stopped you before (LOL). I mean you also deal with a biracial heroine where other writers shy away from it. I am confident that you will write it with he same grace and integrity that you displayed in the previous works.
Who was your favorite darkyn couple. Mine was Alex and Michael AND Nic and Gab. Gab and Nic had this Personal pain that only they could fathom and it just made kind of like Bonnie & Clyde.
Last question: Do you recommend your new fans read from book 1 if Angels burn through Nightshine, book 4 of the Kyndred series or just the darkyn series, in order to really get a good sense of Korvel is?
Thanks.
P.s Richard should be with Eliane.
Chinyere Etufugh (ezinwanyi) says:
February 25th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Dear Lynn,
Thank you for giving us this forum for asking questions. will we see a short story with Jayr and her father? That book cover is one of my favorite book covers. The color, her face etc made it so memorable.
I would buy Phillipe’s story as a short story, but you are right about the unfavorable reaction…but that hasn’t stopped you before (LOL). I mean you also deal with a biracial heroine where other writers shy away from it. I am confident that you will write it with he same grace and integrity that you displayed in the previous works.
Who was your favorite darkyn couple. Mine was Alex and Michael AND Nic and Gab. Gab and Nic had this Personal pain that only they could fathom and it just made kind of like Bonnie & Clyde.
Last question: Do you recommend your new fans read from book 1 if Angels burn through Nightshine, book 4 of the Kyndred series or just the darkyn series, in order to really get a good sense of Korvel is?
Thanks.
P.s. Richard should be with Eliane.
Lynn says:
February 25th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Chinyere wrote: “will we see a short story with Jayr and her father? That book cover is one of my favorite book covers. The color, her face etc made it so memorable.”
Thank you, Evermore is one of my favorite covers of all time — probably because I came up with the color theme.
I have a story in mind for Jayr and her dad, too; that’s in the future file.
“I would buy Phillipe’s story as a short story, but you are right about the unfavorable reaction…but that hasn’t stopped you before (LOL). I mean you also deal with a biracial heroine where other writers shy away from it. I am confident that you will write it with he same grace and integrity that you displayed in the previous works.”
I appreciate the kind words. I feel very strongly that authors should write all the stories that matter, not just the ones that are politically correct. Throughout my career I’ve fought against racist and homophobic attitudes toward what constitutes acceptable characters, and hope that the next generation of writers will continue to do the same. The real world is filled with an amazing variety of people; I think our fiction worlds should be just as diverse.
“Who was your favorite darkyn couple. Mine was Alex and Michael AND Nic and Gab. Gab and Nic had this Personal pain that only they could fathom and it just made kind of like Bonnie & Clyde.”
It’s so tough to pick just one couple! But if I have to, I admit, I am especially fond of Alex and Michael; I think I could write about them forever.
“Last question: Do you recommend your new fans read from book 1 if Angels burn through Nightshine, book 4 of the Kyndred series or just the darkyn series, in order to really get a good sense of Korvel is?”
I think if readers want to explore more of Korvel’s backstory they might want to read Night Lost, book four from the original series, and Evermore, book five; those were the two books in which he had the most presence. But I felt I brought enough of Korvel’s personal history into Nightborn that it isn’t necessary to backtrack and read those novels first.
Kim says:
February 25th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
58 women all in one place. This is going to be interesting., I hope everyone plays nice. Congratulations on the new contract. I have to finish book 4 of the Darkyn series but I will buy Nightborn as soon as it is released anyway. Keep up the great work. My first novel I read of yours was stardoc. I played hot potato with that book a million times before I broke down and bought it. It was the best purchase ever, and stardoc will always have a special place in my heart.
Rachel Green says:
February 26th, 2012 at 4:14 am
Can’t help wondering how you’ll manage the fifty-eight new women witout usig ‘one beautiful dark-haired beauty and her fifty-seven maids and friends’
Lynn says:
February 26th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Kim wrote: “58 women all in one place. This is going to be interesting.”
I try not to be boring at all times, lol.
“My first novel I read of yours was stardoc. I played hot potato with that book a million times before I broke down and bought it. It was the best purchase ever, and stardoc will always have a special place in my heart.”
Thank you, Kim, that is a wonderful thing to hear from a reader.
Lynn says:
February 26th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Rachel wrote: “Can’t help wondering how you’ll manage the fifty-eight new women witout usig ‘one beautiful dark-haired beauty and her fifty-seven maids and friends’”
I managed to resist that shortcut.
June M. says:
February 27th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
You are a new to me author and it looks like I have some catching up to do. I would love to win these books to be able to read them and get caught up before more of this trilogy comes out. I am eager to see how you write 58 women into one book.
Lynn says:
February 27th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
June wrote: “I am eager to see how you write 58 women into one book.”
You try not to let them fall in love with anyone, June, lol.
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