 in·tel·li·gence  [in-tel-i-juh
ns] –noun
1. capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meanings, etc.
—Synonyms: discernment, reason, acumen, aptitude, penetration.
—Antonyms: stupidity.
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The antonym can also be found here.
To Monica: Fuck you and the horse you rode in on, you ignorant, self-centered moron. [Edited to strike that out – I realize it could be seen as a personal attack. And I sincerely do not want to perpetuate what Monica started.]
Signed:Â One of Sybil’s henchwomen
Yeah, but you’ve got to admit that she does a great Ace Ventura imitation. 😀
(Geesh, I hope that’s not too obscure of an analogy, but it makes me laugh to picture it)
Dang, well at least I did not have to visit her blog for my dose of im-monica-turity. Here I thought she was calming down after the last blog disappeared.
Hey Teddy? Any chance you’ll switch teams? Cause I think I’m in deep and abiding love with you.
Bev – the cool thing about Teddypig is I get some of my best recos from him.
The other cool thing about him is he’s a cool dude. And he doesn’t get a hate on just because we haven’t reviewed very many gay romances.
I want to know where I get better henchwomen. I say don’t comment, everyone and their dog comments. I say ignore her, no one does. I say don’t post…
le sigh… you people suck
And they are wagging their fingers at you over at dear author. Clearly they don’t approve. Who knew?
Really though I expected you to come home and delete this gwen. I was wrong! There goes my 98.9% but I should get double points for calling she-who-left-romance’s insanity THE DAY before it exploded.
Now I must go email shi and figure out how I am to blame when I am not the one who keeps bringing up she-who-left-romance. Since you know I don’t need her to get attention.
Wow, um wow…..
This Monica went to such an extreme that I can’t understand!
Why does it always come down to color?
And why does Dear Author seem to bring out the worse in people?
That’s why I feel so safe here and never post over there because I am scared.
Does anyone need a big hug?
I’ll give you a big hug katiebabs. ‘Cause when I’m called a racist for no reason I know I need a little TLC.
That whole thread gave me a headache. Geez. I really wanted to comment on how ethnocentrist really kind of doesn’t work as a derogatory word, but I deleted the post instead and contented myself with a lot of eye rolling.
You know what else pisses the hell out of me? The only person in that whole mix who was “ethnocentrist” was Monica herself!
Whore. [Edited to remove the “juvenile name calling” – I’d bet money she doesn’t stop calling me a “racist” though – and that will prompt me to keep calling her awhore.]Argh. I’m still angry.
Oh katiebabs you are still new huh? That comment she thinks is a cover quote she can chop up at will is from Aug 05.
The process is this:
Flame someone call them racist
pick
pick
pick
Cry woe is her people are just mean to her because of my color
Stomp feet
declare she is leaving romance forever and ever for her her own folk
delete blog to try and kill evidence of unstable activity and cuz the whole leaving romance thing
And then like Jason and Freddy just when you think she is gone…
rinse, wash and repeat
Gwen you have so been talking to me too much. LOLOL do you find yourself calling everyone a whore now days *g*.
Dang, I feel unloved. You haven’t emailed me yet.
Syb, sweetie… ignoring means you just don’t address them. Period. 😉
And shame on the henchwomen. 😛 I totally understand the need to stick up for friends. I’ve done it plenty. But sometimes it’s best to just let things go.
Yeah. There’s nothing inherently wrong with ethnocentrism, according to, count them, two of my professors this semester. And yeah, Monica was definitely displaying some ethnocentrist tendencies herself.
Also, my sister calls me a whore all the time. It’s our way of expressing affection. Maybe she talks to Sybil, too? 😀
Am I being affectionate? Just LOVE me some Monica.
Dammit! All that drama queen screeching from that bugfucked nutso is interrupting my quality time with A Lick of Frost!
HAH! Shiloh, you know I luvs you, but you can’t read worth shit! Lawson and I didn’t say one damn word until she accused us of being rascists just because we are Sybil’s associates. I have never even heard of that nut job and she’s making profane accusations against me.
I can’t speak for Lawson, but I assumed Sybil could handle her own arguments. I grew up in the sixties, I know what REAL racism and sexism is. I cannot express how offensive her accusations were.
Yeah, if she hadn’t done a “Sybil & Co”, throw ’em in a bag, they’re racist thing, I wouldn’t have said anything. But she doesn’t know us, her beef is with Syb (and it’s old too, she should leave it in the past) not us. I don’t like being called that by someone who doesn’t know me.
Bev, babe, I got your back. 😉
Backatcha Lawson! 😀
And furthermore, not only do *I* not know or care what race all of you guys are (or the race of most of the authors I read for that matter), but that nutjob doesn’t know all of us either, which just proves she was talking out of her ass (hence my Ace Ventura analogy)
Darn! I thought we had seen the last of her. I guess not. The sad thing is way back at the beginning she got me thinking and I have purchased a number of books by AA authors and enjoyed them. But now she’s nothing but a sad and embarrassing parody who does so much harm to herself and looks like a fool.
And FWIW – here AA romance authors are shelved in the romance section with all authors – placed alphabetically – the way it should be.
Oh, Bev, sweets, I read just fine. All 130+ comments. 😉 But my eyes started to cross. I’ll admit it.
But what does it accomplish? Nothing. Seriously. I’m not getting into the Monica/Sybil deal. It’s old. Frankly, I’m tired of seeing it. But when one person gets insulting, does dishing out your own insults change anything? Usually all it does it make you mad, raise your blood pressure, keep you awake half the night… especially with this particular case. Nothing anybody does or says is going change anything…on either side. So what is the point? Me, I’m the lazy type. I’m usually only going to invest my energy in things that I know I can change.
I am sorry if I fueled that fire guys honestly.
She brings out my worst.
“And he doesn’t get a hate on just because we haven’t reviewed very many gay romances.”
I want people to review what they enjoy.
Not feel badgered into reading what they are not interested in.
Why beat people up?
If Romantic Times simply said “We don’t review Gay Romance because we don’t like Gay Romance.” I would respect that.
TP says, “I want people to review what they enjoy.
Not feel badgered into reading what they are not interested in.
Why beat people up? “
I like the way you think Teddy Pig. I don’t read Gay Romances because, well, they just don’t interest me. It doesn’t mean I’m homophobic. I appreciate that you understand that.
I also don’t read menage books b/c they don’t interest me. I don’t read books about English Royalty because it really doesn’t interest me. (all those Lords and Lady’s and rules, gah) etc etc etc etc.
I don’t know the ethnic background of the authors I read~unless I’ve seen their picture~but then it’s only a guess b/c pictures don’t always tell the whole story.(The Pastor at our last church adopted a half black child with blond hair and blues eyes). If the story is well written and I can get involved in the story~I’ll read it. I could care less what race the characters or the author are.
bah, I didn’t mean to go on and on.
Anyway, thank your TP for getting what so many people were saying~we read what we enjoy and just b/c we don’t enjoy something doesn’t make someone racist or a homophobe, etc.
“It doesn’t mean I’m homophobic.”
That’s the whole thing. What you do or do not enjoy reading does not make you a “bad” person. Is that not what we are here for? To support each other in enjoying Romance and finding common things we like?
You want to do something constructive against prejudice in my opinion tell some asshole off at work for discriminating against someone because of their race/religion/sexuality or support a local AIDS charity or something.
That in the end means more to me than if you like or don’t like Brokeback *fucking* Mountain. Damn it!
When did people start scanning the back of the cover watching to make sure the author was a certain make or model? Does anyone here really know what the author you are currently reading looks like? I don’t and I don’t care.
I have to disagree with you TP, if Romantic Times ever stated that they don’t write Gay Romance cause they don’t like it, there would be a huge mother-fuckin’ outcry, and you know it. Laura Baum-whatever-her-name-is anyone?
Monica is her own worst enemy, but she makes some good points, the only problem is, she doesn’t recognise that she comes off as way more racist than the people she’s pointing her fingers at.
She’ll never understand that crying racism, whilst exhibiting those very same racist tendencies that she’s bitching about only brands her a hypocrite, and kinda negates anything worthwhile she has to say.
Sybil, your Monica Racism Rant Timeline is right on the money.
I do wonder why though no other black author, other than Monica can ever be arsed to bring these issues up in Romanceland. There are some damn good points for discussion amongst all the mud-slinging.
Uh… amusing, yes… correct, definitely… but it makes us look like we can’t rise above idiots. You know, “Don’t feed the Trolls” and such…
Karen,
I do not call people homophobic because they do not want to read about two guys or two girls getting it on. I respect that people can have likes and dislikes when it comes to their reading material and that is just what makes them different and has nothing to do with liking or disliking Gay People in reality.
I find it funny that someone looking for a book would look at the picture of the author before reading.I personally don’t try to find what an author looks like, their race, hairstyle or even if they are not the most attractive people.
And I don’t particularly like to read about dragons getting it on and women getting it on with a trees or seals that turn in humans so does that make a me dragophobe or a treeophobe?
Laura Baumbach was upset with Romantic Times not because they do not review her books but because Carol Stacy and her posse treated her like shit when she paid to have a table at the conference. Even though Romantic Times does not review her books there still are readers at the conference.
Then Carol Stacy treated her like shit again in Laura’s own comment section. You can still read it if you want it is still there.
You know, several of us, including me, have tried to make the point that we don’t know and don’t care what color an author is when we buy a book. Well, I was just catching up on the overnight screeching and found a few voices of reason who made AA author recommendations. Lo and behold– my point was proven!! I already read some of them and didn’t have a clue what race they were!
But now I have a dilemma– I just read and ADORED a book by one of those mentioned authors and was planning to do a very favorable review. However, now that I know she’s an AA author, and in light of the shit storm, would posting the review be seen as offering a (as Monica would say) token black author review? Well, I intend to write the review anyway. I do NOT intend to mention what race the author is though, because that matters less than nothing to me.
Personally, I think this all goes to prove another point. The reason the nut job’s books don’t sell isn’t because she’s black, they don’t sell because she’s a nut job that can’t write. She has just chosen to blame everyone but herself. And I feel confident saying that without ever reading one of her books. Someone with her intolerance and lack of comprehension could never write a book I’d be interested in.
Me, I always make sure to look at the author’s pic. J/k. Actually, I can’t look at the author’s picture because if there’s a really sexy scene in the book, I’d think back to the author’s face and think, “ewww…”
I asked Sybil what kind of music “Sybil & Co” plays especially since it sounds like the name of a band.
How about lesbian folk white power ballads? 😛
Oh, Lord. I actually had to lay down and put a cold compress over my eyes after reading the 100+ comments on DA.
Aw Bam you crack me up! I am thinking the same thing, especially when an author is much older and she is writing these very intense and erotic sex scenes and then you look at her picture and she looks like my grandma!
Don’t do that BAM. On of these days you are gonna look and the guy will look like your grandpa. That will just hurt so bad.
“I do not call people homophobic because they do not want to read about two guys or two girls getting it on. I respect that people can have likes and dislikes when it comes to their reading material and that is just what makes them different and has nothing to do with liking or disliking Gay People in reality.” Teddy Pig~you are a rational voice in a storm of crazy! LOL
I so don’t want to have to worry about being PC in my reading choices. HMMMMMM did I spend my quota on AA authors this month? How about gay authors? *shakes head*
And like Bev (QB) said, I probably read AA authors and just don’t know it. I probably read gay authors too and just don’t know it. One of my favorite authors has a son that is gay and because of that, she has a gay character that is a reoccurring character in her book series. He has even had his own romance plotline. Did I stop reading the books? Nope. I may not seek out books with M/M or F/F plotlines, but if it shows up I don’t slam the book shut and say “forget it”.
I’m rambling LOL but those are my thoughts anyway.
Aww, TP… then it’s a good thing white women dominate the romance writing world ’cause they’d never look like my grandpa or my grandma. Ha-ha.
Dude, that’s why I’m thrilled Marjorie Liu is hot ’cause she writes some sexy stuff too.
and that Meljean Brook…
I’m just really, really glad Sunny doesn’t include her author picture ’cause I’m afraid she’ll look like my mother and with the stuff she writes, I’d be scarred for life.
One can always count on bam for comic relief 🙂
Syb, my shrink tells me it’s a defense mechanism.
When things get tense, I make with the funny. *jazz hands*
Stupid, neglectful parents too busy arguing to pay attention to me…
Sybil & Co…
Is that a side project to Sybil & the Post-Aborts (warning:completely random and obscure kerfuffle reference)?
If so, I call bass. I always wanted to be a cool alternachick bass player like Kim Gordon or Kim Deal.
Does that make Gwen drums? I can’t sing worth shit so… anyone?
Heh. I’ll do vocals, Syb.
I’ll be your token yellow girl. 😛
I’ll sing! But I won’t wear a duck costume!
Wow, we’re already in synch!
Can I be the tambourine girl?
I have flaming red hair so I won’t be missed 🙂
awww Bam I thought you already were? Hee I would have asked you to review too but you know… everyone would know it is you since you are soooooooooooo long winded. Oh wait you could be Gwen or Bev. hmmm maybe you are and I just don’t know it.
brb gonna send you a pic of sunny *g*
We need tattoos if we’re going to be a band.
Brevity is not my friend.
Also not my friends: shellfish, pollen, tree nuts, and bees.
Sybil, you can ting the symbols. See Sybil- symbols!
I want a big ass tattoo also! 🙂
The band’s name can be “The Henchwomen”
There – I changed my post and my comment. I removed the name calling. Sort of…
Okay okay – it was a half-assed attempt! But, hey, I tried.
Oh silly, silly gwen… name calling is okay you just need to use big words to do it or hate words.
THAT is ok.
Now that there’s a tambourine girl, who’s got cowbell?
And the Keytar?