Cheryl

Ended up here – had a few giggles – now off to read the rest of Passion. Now, if I remember will check back to see if/when Patience released! But can’t image the horror of having to wait 3 years.

Well she updated yes?

I would say she didn’t make any promises she isn’t going to keep and I would say most would be happy if she finishes it and does publish it.

Did she hear about the post? Prolly. Did that matter? Doubt it. Honestly the title of the post was me being a smartass and cheeky not meant to point the finger at Gina in any way more than just mocking the silliness of restating the same thing (2 or so years later) when NOTHING had changed.

I am closing in on 99.9% again.

BTW, who is Sybil and why does she diss people she doesn’t know?

Attacking the messenger? What a cheap shot.

Hey Lin/Gloria welcome to Cockpuppet Land.

Aztec, I think you’re onto something here. I think Cock is much more appropriate than sock.

Qwerty

Sybil, what on earth are you going on about?

1. This author does not owe you or any fan a book.

2. To direct your anger at her CP is bizarre behavior.

3. Having this strong of a reaction over a delayed book puts you in the class of “obsessive fan.” Please take this seriously.

4. Your comprehension is frightenly off base, thanks for asking.

What am I going on about? That it is bad form for a CP to call the author, for whom she is a CP for, in essence, a liar. In public. When said author doesn’t seem to want to post online or follow through with what she says she is going to do. It seems to be better to wait until at least the book is turned in. IMHO

1 – Don’t be stupid. No one owes anyone anything. Hell Gina doesn’t owe readers anything. We are each in charge of what we believe and don’t believe. So if people decided to go, “Woot, yay, lisa is gonna have the book done soon” based on what Gina sez, whatever. At the same time if I want to say “geeze that is shitty,” I can.

2 – It is bizarre behavior that you took this post as angry. Or that I had any feeling about Gina one way or the other. Well other than what I stated. But silly that… if you are one of her running buds you must be used to people not being able to speak their own minds and for themselves. So I understand your odd reaction.

3 – THIS makes me giggle… muchly… I do so lurve the rabid. No really. I gots the button!

4 – hmmmm. Oddly I think that you thinking this should prolly make me feel very secure in my own intelligence. If, that is, the day ever comes that I need reassurance from strangers that I RAWK. I will keep this bookmarked. Until then I will just keep on keeping on and making up my own mind, stating my own opinions and all that wild and crazy stuff that makes me a blogger.

No worries, you too can be a blogger! Gloria/Lin said so! So, really, you go with your badself.

Do you have your own blog because you’re a bitch or because you have no friends who want to speak to you face to face? Anyone can have a blog – it doesn’t make you important or suggest you know anything. What a wonderful epitah – she had a blog where she slandered people and was just generally a hard ass

Gloria, or should I call you Lin?

Why do I have my own blog? Because I want one. I like it. Tis shiny and purple… there are duckies that makes me squeee with joy. I like romance novels and I like to talk about them.

Being a bitch or not being a bitch really has nothing to do with it because I make it a rule to not say anything in print I wouldn’t in person. So, really, Lin hon, if we had been sitting at a table, and Gina said the same thing, I would have responded the same way.

Well I prolly would have said “fuck” more. But you know how that whole Internet communication thing can fuck shit up and some people have a stick stuck so far up their arses they take things way too seriously.

Thanks for asking!

Sadly I am in BFE right now and on ::le gasp:: dial-up but I plan to be back in the real world soon.

As is my point does seem to be misunderstood by some. That happens when you come rushing in to the rescue and ‘get the back of a friend’ who was just le cry getting the back of a friend.

I mean really. WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TOO? We expect people to talk for themselves? Say it isn’t so! Next thing you know we will think making cockpuppets to agree with your points isn’t nice.

SIDENOTE: posting as many people DOESN’T increase your chances of winning contests it just makes me pissy and takes LONGER to get winners announced… just saying

Anyhoo… I like Lisa. I liked the book. I think it is grand it got such a great response and am happy if people are still buying it. Search her name on this here blog you have obviously never been to before there is a touch of history there….

MY POINT was and is unless there is something NEW happening. Unless there is something NEW to be Said. Unless the AUTHOR is going to do something AND FOLLOW through… than what are the ‘CP’s and or ‘friends’ doing other than giving false hope to readers? WHAT have those readers done other than enjoy a book and want to see more of the authors work?

Why lie to them? Why give them false hope? And DO NOT blame the publisher unless you are telling Lisa Valdez is a liar and the reasons she gave me for each of the past delays were made up. That road won’t lead anywhere pretty me think…

If the book is suddenly going to be finished, printable and in stores – GREAT. I will be more than happy to read it and pimp it if I like it. Well if we are saying I was used, lied to and manipulated… that might have a lil bit of a different outcome.

But I think it is very easy for authors to cry omg not my fault it is THEM those damn damn publisher peeps. And is it sometimes the publishers fault… sure. But if that is what we are saying here, if you are honestly trying to tell me ALL of her delays were because of her mean ol nasty publisher, honestly…. I would adore to hear more. So if you have something NEW to say – say it.

But remember, speaking FOR anyone other than yourself is generally a bad fucking idea.

*outraged gasp!*

There, there, Meljean. *patting your back* There, there. LOL

Lucy, the above quote puts you firmly on the ‘Fucktard’ list.

SMOOCHES, Karen!

Srsly, the way Kay Hooper handled a missed release date was very good. She posted an apology on her website. Said that she found it harder to write in her brand new dream home than she did staring at an ugly wall in her old digs. (I too get more accomplished when I’m in my little office with the only distraction being a water stain on a ceiling tile.)

She said the book would be out 6 months later, and lo and behold the book was available exactly 6 months later.

New version of the Thumper rule: If you’re just going to repeat meaningless reassurances, then don’t say anything at all.

Oh, and Azteclady I think you’ve started a new trend. Cockpuppets, I love it.

With regards to books being delayed, I understand that real life, writer’s block, all kinds of things can intervene… I can commiserate, and hope that a book will come out soon. But delays, especially long delays, undermine buzz/excitement for the next release. I’ll look for books that I’m interested in and that are available now. A website and updates can help keep me interested in a new release – but that’s only useful if it’s a) updated at least once in a while and b) has some interesting or useful updates. Otherwise I just feel like I’m being appeased, and there’s no real progress or development – and the author will slip my mind. I’ll start thinking that it’ll never happen, or that the book is shelved.

Writing is a creative process, and it’s hard work. But authors are also putting out a product, and are relying on readers to buy that product. By building buzz, having an effective website or a great online presence, authors reach out to readers, and try to get them interested in their work. But if I start to forget about the author, or lose trust in the author’s ability to deliver a product, well, that weakens the author’s ability to market their product to me as a reader.

Can anyone think of any one book wonders? ‘Cuz, Karen, that is a great idea for a post.

Thanks for the inspiration Devon, I wrote a post that’ll be going up tomorrow!

It could’ve been so bee-yoooootiful
It could’ve been so right

*sob sob*

That was a hit? Sheesh, who the hell was silly enough to buy her records? *runs and hides*

Perhaps a romance Gary Numan or Kajagoogoo instead?

pfft.

You know, in the same way that Tiffany was a one-hit wonder?

*outraged gasp!*

Tiffany had more than one hit! There was “I Think We’re Alone Now” AND “Could’ve Been”!

It could’ve been so bee-yoooootiful
It could’ve been so right

*sob sob*

I have given up on Patience ever being published.

As to authors and the web, there are plenty of authors who don’t have websites – Linda Howard is a prime example. You don’t have to have a web presence, I don’t really care if you do. BUT, if you decide you have one and then you do newsletters telling me about how you are hard at work on your book but ‘oooops’ I’m missing my first deadline. Fine. I’m still okay with that. Course, you tell me this a third time and then disappear? I’m not believing you anymore.

So here’s a hint, if you are an author with any sort of blog or website and you have to ‘unplug’ do what Meljean does and say ‘hey, on deadline, I’ll be back when I can breathe’.

So I feel bad for Gina in that she felt the need to come to her friends defense because that is what friends do. Thing is, let it go. And I’m sure Gina has learned the hard way not to try and talk to another author’s fans. Especially ones who have been hearing the same song and dance for too long now.

As an aside, I saw cockpuppet and the visual was perfect for what you were trying to say anyways

CindyS (another mean whore bitch with an opinion and a blog – guess that means no one likes me in real life either)

Azteclady – we’re all laughing WITH you, not AT you. Promise. No, really!